Well...in the natural verses epidural game, I am not sure which one wins. I was so out of it with this one (natural) that I couldn't even hold her. I was shaking so hard, I was worried I was going to drop her. It was cool to know that I could do it, though. If your interested in her birth story, you'll have to wait. I don't have those pictures right now, so I'll do that post later.